Antinatalism International (ANI) Grand Launch Event!

 hi amanda

we call internationalism in bengali

language is

john modan anti-natalism anti-natalism

anti-natalism anti-natalism

anti-natalismo antenatalismas

anti-natalismos antenatalismos

antimatalisma anginata

hey everybody welcome to the launch yay

uh welcome everyone welcome to the

anti-natalism

international launch event um but i we i

also refer to it as annie

as well so you might hear us refer to it

as annie um

but thank you for coming whether you're

watching it as it's being streamed or

you're watching it on catch up

uh we are streaming on both youtube and

facebook so

hello to everyone on both those

platforms um

you may be here just because you've seen

the post on social media or you know one

of us

um but you may also have heard about the

event from the podcast we did

uh with amanda who is one of the

founders so she's here as well but she

also hosts the

exploring anti-natalism podcast

and we did a podcast with her um

which you may have listened to so you

might know a bit about what's coming up

um but we've got loads uh planned for

this evening this morning

the middle of the day wherever it how

whatever time it is where you are

and we've got loads planned for the um

the launch event and there's also

an after party as well so we'll be

constantly referring to the discord

throughout the event

but definitely join our discord the link

will be in the description of wherever

you're watching this

and come on to the discord and join the

after party or beginning

it will be beginning straight after the

event ends um and hopefully we'll all be

there

um so uh what have we got in store

today so uh you got loads of stuff so

we've got um

a ex exclusive lecture from kareem

akerma

which is going to be excellent and we've

also got music from ash hunter

as well which is also going to be uh

supreme

uh we've also got loads of special

guests which we're not actually going to

tell you who they are

but they will be appearing throughout

the event so you've got those to look

forward to

and one of the final things i want to

say in this intro

before i introduce everyone else is that

we'll be running a contest

throughout the event and also prior to

the event as well so there's a couple of

different times you can enter the

contest

but we will be giving away a free

t-shirt

and any t-shirt which they are if you

want to see them

uh i think we'll edit pictures in of

them now but you can also see them on

our website

so you've got the design i'm wearing and

there are a couple of other

designs as well and if you want a chance

to win one of those

all you have to do is just sign up to

our mailing list which you can do on our

website

and we'll put some video in now of how

you can actually do that and just

show you so no one you know get loses

out on the opportunity to get a free

t-shirt

now we can just go straight into

everyone introducing themselves so all

the founders of annie are here

um so i think we can just go around and

just do a quick

introduction of each of ourselves hello

i'm tedious

hey everybody i'm late hey everyone i'm

laurence

hey everybody i'm amanda hi this is anug

namaste this is prashima from india

if you'd like to learn more about each

of us please go check out the interview

that we did on the exploring

anti-natalism podcast and you can also

find out more about each of us on our

website

okay now let's start this thing off

right by kicking it off with a song

it is with great pride that i present to

you the amazingly talented

ak hunter with his song the sun

take it away ash

[Music]

the sun is a demon

in the sky shining light giving rise

to life

[Music]

the song is a demon

in the sky shut it off and let

everything die

leave this land barren in the light

cause the sun is a demon

in the sky does

the universe know

the way that we know

dream but i'm not too happy

[Music]

so

in the blackness of space

where deepest fears

[Music]

goodbye to

the pain from the demon

in the sky

[Music]

so

big up and uh congratulations

to everybody involved on the launch

of antenatalism international

good luck with everything in the future

i'll be there every step of the way

thank you ash that was phenomenal uh

please make sure to go visit ak hunter's

channel where you can find the

incredible animated music video version

of the sun that he did recently

um just released today as well is ash's

new

album uh no child left behind so make

sure to go check out

um the youtube channel and subscribe for

that as well

thank you so much again ash and now

lawrence is going to tell you a little

bit more about anti-natalism

international

and all of our objectives uh yeah thanks

amanda so i'll go

uh just really quickly briefly over what

annie is and then more

um we'll go more into our objectives in

a minute

but um so basically anti-natalism

international is the world's

first international organization that is

centered around this increasingly

popular

um philosophy um of anti-natalism

essentially you know the um

the rejection of procreation on ethical

grounds

and um annie welcomes uh

anti-proactive thinkers from uh all

regions of the world and

all schools of thought and as an

organization ali really wants to play

um a key role in helping facilitate

getting

uh antiprocative thought more into the

mainstream

of society um so to achieve that

what we've done is we've sort of laid

out 10 objectives that we have

and we just want to go through those 10

objectives

with people now so what i'll do is i'll

hand over to

lathe to go over the first objective

so number one resources and education

creating resources and making existing

resources

more accessible for example through

translation

to benefit the anti-natalist community

and further

outreach efforts in wider society

objective number two combating stigma

combating stigma surrounding

childless individuals abortion vasectomy

right to die

extinction and other viewpoints related

to the anti-pro-creative movement

objective three securing dignity and

guardianship this involves

engaging in a wider effort to secure

basic dignity of individuals

both humans and non-humans and in life

and in death

this includes ethical practices of

adoption which focus

more on benefits of those being adopted

as well as right to die

number four connecting communities

helping to build and grow the global

anti-pro-creative community and

connecting those different communities

there is vhemp

ethylis antenatalists chelsea and others

number five

normalizing antenatalism normalizing and

increasing awareness of the terminology

of antenatalist philosophy in mainstream

society

objective number six making child free

tools and services more accessible

working to make non-procreation more

practically accessible

and advocating the use of methods to

prevent birth

example increasing access to

contraception sterilization services

abortion facilities etc antenatalism

international

condemns the poland government's

repressive stance on abortion

we demand that the polish government to

stop the publication and enactment of

the abortion law

objective 7 opposing assisted

reproductive methods

opposing the creation of new or

continuation of existing assisted

reproductive technologies and methods

number eight study and research

conducting or helping to facilitate

research into issues pertaining to

non-procreation and anti-natalism

objective number nine

encouraging voluntary extinction

generating conversations around

and encouraging a moment towards

voluntary ethical

human extension and or extinction of all

sentient beings

number 10 preventing procreation of

sentient beings

opposing the breathing of all sentient

beings

and encouraging the prevention of their

procreation

okay thank you so much everybody um we

want to make it clear that antinatalism

international does not

intend to be to act as a spokesperson

for the antenatalist community

but instead you know we hope to

facilitate the community becoming a

stronger spokesman for itself

um just a quick note that everything

above the about section and the

antenatalism international

um 10 objectives are on the website uh

so

please feel free to go check those out

anytime we hope that you go and read

them

so when we were putting together this

event we thought it would be really cool

to ask

a few members of our community that

age-old question

of why are you an anti-natalist

so we're going to play the first

response we got back now

and that is by the author of

of happiness and children the evolution

of ethical thought

and the demographic dimensions of

problems and of course that is

miguel steiner we are not born free

since birth we are trained to our needs

and vulnerability every soul is a

potential of suffering

there's hunger disease accidents unmet

needs

violence and the human speciality

torture of course global suffering

increases with population growth

this that's what we can call the

demographic

dimension of pain the last century

with about three billion in the 1950s

was the worst century that becomes

victims of war and hunger nowadays

we are an aunt hill of nearly 8 billion

people

so it is not strange that

more than a million people commit

suicide

every year for example

your child will be a new scenario of

probable suffering

you can't guarantee its well-being you

just know

that he or she will die

nature be may be stronger than reason

and control may be difficult but before

you decide to have a baby

think about the risky fate of your

living

creation it is something more than you

desire

it's a new life and a new death

and a matter of your responsibility

to beget children is a rather reckless

decision

i would say it's not ethical

preventive compassion is better

so that was miguel everyone so thank you

so much miguel for submitting that and

everyone please make sure to head to his

website and check out uh

everything that's on there the link is

in the description

and also he has a youtube channel you

can check out as well so

we're actually gonna go straight into

another submission we got from um

uh our next guest um and this next guest

achieved global fame in 2019

for famously threatening to sue his

parents for

bringing him into existence introducing

the international anti-natalist

superstar raphael samuel

hi i'm rafael aka in hilarnon

and the reason i'm a 1980 list is

because i just don't see the point in

this entire exercise

like even if it was complete pleasure

and no

pain what is the damn point

but the fact remains that there is pain

and there is a lot of

pointless pain for this sentient piece

of flesh

that is eventually going to die for

absolutely no reason at all

so even if you die a billionaire so what

and eventually everyone's going to

forget you and even if they won't

why do you want to be remembered so

that's the reason i'm an antenatalist

the absolute

sheer obvious vast

pointlessness of the whole exercise

excellent thank you raphael samuel um so

again make sure to follow rafael samuel

on all the social media you'll find him

everywhere and now passing over to

amanda to

introduce the website tour all right

fantastic thank you so much laurence um

i am now going to hand you over to

enugra actually

he's going to take you through a full

tour of the antenatalism international

website

so take it away enugra to follow along

with anuga's tour

head over to antinatalism international

dot com link below

uh let me take you through our tour of

the website and what resources are

currently available

the home page this is the home page you

can navigate

through different you know sections of

the website

right here on top there are different

menus like about us initiatives

resources community

as you can see this is a slider uh

you'll you'll find the slider

content updated as and when there's a

new

activity or event happening right below

the slider

there is a preview of upcoming emails

and right next to it

is the podcast section the podcast is

called antenatal news

and uh the footer there's footer there

where for general inquiries people can

contact us and for media inquiries

people can you know

get our email and then there's this

about us section where

which has got two sections who we are

and what is anti-nuclearism in the

who we are section you get to read about

general

introduction to a i anti-nuclearism

international

we already spoke about objectives you

will find them listed out here and then

there are values and then you can

you know look at uh read a bit about the

directors that is us and then you can

also

follow us on our social media handle and

the next section

what is anti-natalism you get to read

about general information

general introduction rather uh to

anti-mutualism and then there's a

brief overview of four main schools of

thought that's some very interesting

stuff

the next menu item that i want to

introduce to you is

initiatives here you can find out about

our active initiatives

there'll be much more coming in the

future of course and as you see there's

a

film festival located when you click on

the antenatalist film festival logo you

will get to

see the page on filmfreeway.com there

are details regarding

the submissions how you can submit your

film and

rules and terms and other stuff so

there'll be lot more coming

in this particular page the resources

section has

two pages underneath it reference guides

and antenatalist handbook

if you look at the reference guides

you'll see this page has

everything that you need to know and

read about anti-natalism

on planet earth and this is an effort by

amanda

this is several years of effort that

amanda has put in to gather all this

stuff so this is

excellent resource for people who want

to read about anti-mutualism

the next section is anti-needless

handbook the antenatalist handbook is

compiled by late and lauren this

handbook has some common questions

that natalists you know throughout

anti-needless so this is a fun read

you should check this out this is the

community section and this is where

anthony's across the world

get a chance to hang out online and

offline

hopefully in the near future online for

now

discord is a place which is the most

happening place for anti-natalism

international as an organization

please click on this link and then join

the discard

server the mailing list is the next

section where you can go to that page

and then

key in your email address and you'll get

into our uh you get to join our mailing

list

and uh get regular updates of our

activities

this is where you get to read different

write-ups articles written by some of us

and

this these will be notified on our

various social media handles

as and when they are uploaded the

upcoming events section is the place

where you can keep yourself updated of

global

activities events that are happening in

the anti-neutralism domain

thank you enugra please make sure to

head over to antenatalism

international.com to see

everything

okay everybody ladies and gentlemen the

time has come i would like to introduce

to you all our special guest lecturer

for the evening

everyone please welcome renowned

anti-natalist historian and the author

of several books on the subject

most recently antenatalism and handbook

kareem akerma kareem will be speaking

with us today regarding a variety of

subjects related to anti-natalism

including

anti-natalist enlightenment the never

act rule prime morality

and parental guilt on behalf of everyone

at a i our most sincere thanks to mr

akurma for preparing this presentation

for us all today

and without further ado i am so pleased

to give you

kareem akerma hello

anti-natalism international my name is

kareem akarma

i am very happy to be with you today at

least

digitally in my short lecture

i will talk about antinatalistic

enlightenment

as well as about objective complicity

and subjective complicity

objectively speaking whoever procreates

is complicit in the causation

of a lot of suffering that cannot be

justified

ethically this is so because

if mankind ceased to procreate today

there would be no more wars no more

famines

nor pandemics in a hundred years

however the vast majority of people

is not aware of this which is to say

people are not aware of their being

complicit

in the production of suffering in most

cases

objective complicity has no subjective

counterpart

this is where anti-natalistic

enlightenment

comes into play as antenatalists

we should try to bring about a

subjectivization

of objective complicity

how can we achieve that people become

aware of the part

they play in the production of future

calamity

a feasible solution would be to appeal

to ethical ideas that most people would

subscribe to

anyway one such concept

is the never-react rule

the never-rack rule belongs to a range

of antenatalistic

concepts that work like

ethical screwdrivers

we can apply these antenatalistic tools

in order to screw open the otherwise

inaccessible cage of pronatalism

the never act rule reads as follows

never act in such a way that somebody

will die

as a consequence of your action

except cases of self-defense

or cases of a sister dying

this is a rule most people will

subscribe to

when they subscribe to it they are not

aware of the fact

that if we think about having children

we think about acting exactly in such a

way

that somebody will die as a consequence

of our erection

so if we explain the never wrecked rule

to people

we make objective complicity transparent

we subjectivize objective complicity

and then ideally the scales

will fall from people's eyes because

they have subscribed to

a rule which contradicts

their want to have children

and they said before that it's all right

we create a conflict a moral conflict

when we make

people subscribe to

the netherrec rule and

we may find out that

egoistic reasons and aspirations

count more for people when it comes

to having children than

ethical rules which of course is a

problem for all those people

who previously had endorsed

the never wrecked rule by the way the

never wrecked rule is not the same as

saying

if you produce a child you kill somebody

because we cannot kill somebody who does

not exist yet

we cannot kill somebody whom we as the

saying goes

call into existence

the never wrecked rule is much more

precise analytically

than the claim that we killed someone by

begetting him or her

the never wreck rule can serve as a

powerful tool

to bring it home to defenders of

procreation

that there is something wrong about

having children

this is so because the vast majority of

people

will agree that it is almost always

wrong

to act in such a way that a human being

will die

as a consequence of our action

another tool to make it explicit that

procreation

is wrong is the concept of primordiality

let me explain most parents

tend to say or would say when asked

that loss of a child is

the worst thing that can happen to them

astonishingly most parents

never reflect on the fact

that if we mirror

this utterance loss of a child is

the worst thing that can happen to me if

we mirror this

we end up saying loss of my parents

is was or will be

among the worst things that can happen

to me or that has happened to me

i try to catch

this intricate

concept by calling it prime mortality

parents take it for granted that

somehow they will die

before their children which is to say

they are no longer there when their

children

will die the same parents

who had declared it'll be a catastrophe

for me

should my children die while i'm alive

have no problems at all

assuming that their children will die

some later point in time but

they will die many of them will end up

in toronto camps

which is a more precise

description for old people's

old people's homes

when asked why they take it for granted

that and don't have any problems with

them the fact that their children

will die at some point in time

they would answer well but it's a it's

it's natural

everyone has to die

this doesn't seem to be very convincing

because

death of a child cannot be

extremely bad as long as their

respective parents are still alive

but not so bad or not bad at all

once the perished the parents have

perished or have

have stopped to live

now parents who are

pushed to answer would say it

is natural that anybody will die at some

point in time but it

isn't natural at all because

being a parent is natural at all

people can decide whether or not to have

children

so there is no

force in nature which

obliges people to have children

everybody can

easily abstain from having children

this is caught in the concept of

primordiality

did that only because

you as a parent die

be will die before me as a child

don't assume this is not problematic it

is a huge problem

perhaps parents assume

that their grown-up children are not

childish any longer

this is correct but we shouldn't forget

that even

at an age of 30 40 50 or 60

that is when our parents usually die

um we remain their children

so um

it is a good tool is it seems to be an

excellent tool

an internationalistic tool a tool of

antenatalistic enlightenment

to talk about the concept of

prime mortality which reveals that

the utterance parents utter utterance

my child's death is

the worst thing that could happen to me

is very egoistic

as because once um the parents

die the children are left alone

as simple as that

now the concept of parental guilt

parental guilt resides in the fact that

objectively speaking all parents

are the originators of

a lot of suffering subjectively speaking

however

this isn't valid

parental guilt is graded it depends

especially on the amount of

anti-natalistic enlightenment

parents to be are actual parents

have been confronted with

parental guilt also

is in relation to

information to available information

today in the information age information

is available

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to an ether to unknown degree

when i say that parental good is graded

um this becomes obvious also if we look

at the phenomenon of of climate change

people who in view of climate change

still have children who will carry

upon their shoulders a lot of

parental guilt obviously because

in the face of a lot of

valid or at least convincing information

they still did not abstain from having

children

climate change is just

one point in case which renders

subjective parental guilt into

subjective parental guilt in the last

century

we've seen two world wars

originating from a country and that is

germany

which was among the most developed

country countries nobody would have

expected

i would have seen a posit this lighted

possibility

for the coming of world wars because

everybody was so civilized

which is to say atrocities such as wars

or

world wars can happen anytime in any

civilized

country or region of the world

in the face of all this of wars

natural catastrophes of imminent climate

change

the amount of parental guilt is

increasing

the amount of parental guilt was

considerably lower before

before the world wars

it did exist it did exist in as much as

hunger was widespread

but women

didn't have a lot to say when it came to

when it came to procreational questions

so especially for women procreation

procreation just

took place as a as a natural

disaster today it's much different in

the information age

parental guilt has reached an unseen

amount of

of density and there is a lot of

parental guilt around us

now if we take parental guilt as a

concept

to screw open the pronator cage

we might succeed in convincing people to

abstain from procreation because

especially in the face of climate change

it's obvious

that anybody who procreates now

will be responsible for his or her

children's

suffering in a few decades

in maybe just 10 20 30 or 40 years

when the parents see

the concept of primo prime mortality

have already perished

but the children will be there

and will have to suffer through what was

foreseeable and what is foreseeable now

so anybody who procreates

now carries upon

her or his shoulders a huge amount

of parental guilt if we bring this home

to want to to to be

to want to be parents we might succeed

in making people refrain from

procreation

interestingly enough we find in

literature

many confessions of

parental guilt there wasn't a lot of

anti-natalistic enlightenment in the

past

but still there are many parental many

confessions of parental guilt

a good case in point is thomas munn

let me read a quotation from his diaries

which he wrote

in the years 19 18

to 19 21

quote when i came back

the child's ear was just being bound he

was rolling about and crying so badly

it tore my heart in two when one brings

children into the world

one creates a suffering that is outside

oneself

an objective suffering that one does not

oneself

feel but only watches others feel

and that one feels guilty about

so much for

a very interesting and convincing

confession of parental guilt

the concept of parental guilt might

prove very helpful

when we try to convince people

not to procreate

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a word

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see the flowers

supposed to bring joy

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this will happen by the way

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is

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in order to come to the

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nobody wanted to exist

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yes

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as of today you're no longer

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is

huge thank you again to mr karima kerma

for the excellent lecture

and you also just heard an original song

written by mr akerma called

never to have been performed by his band

afrohauer and i'm so sorry if i'm

pronouncing that incorrectly

um please visit the band's website to

learn more about

them and what they do beautiful website

by the way link below

um you can also find links to kareem's

website below

uh his youtube channel lentil vegetation

where you can hear even more of his

music

and also a link on his website

specifically you'll find

to where you can hear uh never to have

been uh even more

and now i'm gonna hand you back over to

lawrence thanks amanda yeah so we've got

the next clip coming up

and that is from the author of the art

of guillotine procreators

and it is that is of course the one the

only

theophil de garo there is actually a

link in the description

to a new english translation to part of

his book

so definitely go check that out but for

now um why are you an antenatalist theo

mata

foreign amazing thank you theo i hope

you're able to get some sleep after you

recorded that clip

um everyone definitely go check out uh

theo's website also check out the

translation of part of his book as i

said before in the description

and also he has a youtube channel that

has loads of tv segments and interview

that he's done

so definitely go check that out as well

okay i think we're gonna have uh

one more word from another special guest

now before we talk about our one-year

plan

so let's have a word with the founder of

the voluntary human extinction movement

or

vehement less unite why are you an

anti-natalist less

i'm les knight a volunteer with the

voluntary human extinction movement

like many of us i began advocating

antenatalism long before i knew that's

what it was called

in the early 1970s i began advocating

non-procreation

and voluntary human extinction for the

benefit of the environment

deep ecology caring more about the

biosphere than about

humanity i've heard this called

misanthropic

antenatalism but i'm not a misanthrope

i still care more about the entirety of

life than our one species

but these days i'm equally concerned

about the tragic lives

that someone born today will experience

it's unlikely we're going to avoid some

serious chaos

as we continue into overshoot i've heard

this called

philanthropic antinatalism so i guess i

subscribe to both

misanthropic and philanthropic

antinatalism

but no matter what type of antinatalism

we agree with or what our motivations

are

we can all work together to increase

awareness of the benefits

of not creating more of us than we

already have

when we live long and die out

thank you so much for that less okay

everybody please make sure to go visit

the official vehement website to learn

more about vehement

links below okay great so those were two

amazing clips

and we've got one more clip coming up

later on in the show but for now

uh we're just gonna go into three of the

initiatives that we've got coming up in

2021 so

we've got a whole one-year plan that we

do go into in a

bit more detail in the podcast so make

sure you check that out on exploring

anti-natalism

that's hosted by amanda but for now

we're just going to go into

three of our initiatives so i handed

over to lathe to go through the first

one

thank you uh so the first uh

plan is the film festival uh the

antenatalist film festival will be the

world's

first film festival to be dedicated

to anti-procreative thought it will be

held in october next year

but submissions are actually already

open so

please if you have a film of any sort

that engages with

anti-procreative ideas then please

submit it

submissions are free and can be in any

language

and you can make them via the

film freeway page for the festival that

can be

accessed through the initiatives

page on the a i website

because we want to reach a global

audience

and we also cannot predict uh what the

situation with kovid will be

uh the festival will be entirely online

hosted on the

a i website uh it's going to be great

they will they will be a words uh

judge panels opportunity for discussion

and loads

more uh so if you have any idea

brewing in the back of your mind for an

antenatal short or feature

than film now is your time to shine

all right so adopt an activist is an

initiative where

there are many people in the internet

list community who who have many great

ideas who want to do different projects

but don't have resources to do that and

on the other side we have many people

who have resources who can

help other people do something but don't

know where to go and how to do it

and you want to connect these two groups

together on a platform so adopt an

activist

would form a platform or like a

community board where

if you want to do something you

advertise your plan what you want to do

what's your idea

about activism of anti-natalism and

someone who wants to donate they can

come here and see how their donations

can be used up where they can donate

and so on we are very excited about this

initiative

so that it can help grow antenatals

community

and grow its reach i'll talk a few words

about antinetalist academy

our idea of internet list academy

broadly includes the concept of study

circles

workshops for enriching the knowledge of

existing volunteers

and coming up with some content creating

content for new members

this includes pamphlets handbook the

initial stages of the academy

uh includes regular videos by anugrah

and others um

and regular reading group events online

platforms where we come together to read

and discuss stuff together

the academy will also provide valuable

inputs for advocacy and policy team

which we plan to set up in the future

amazing thank you later patima and tejas

for going over those so

now we've got a second song by a k

hunter and that is get the snip

now this one's super relevant because if

you heard the podcast that we did before

as i mentioned uh you'll know that we

are hoping in the future to start a

vasectomy fund

uh now if you want more information

about that go and listen to the podcast

i'm not going to go into it now

but we have got get the snips so let's

take it away ash

[Music]

here's an idea for your life just a

little

cheap backfires one two three four five

six

[Music]

[Music]

messing with my baby get that scent

get that snip if you don't want to trip

well go get that snail

cause i don't need no children hanging

around my home

that's why i got me fixed and that's why

i live alone i got that

[Music]

enjoy child free

if you don't want no mistakes then i'll

give you a tip baby get that

snake get that snap

if you wanna be legit well go get that

snip

cause i don't need no recourse when i

empty

my clips or got the snip

[Music]

[Music]

incubator get that one two three four

five six if you wanna be hit baby get

that snip that

snip that snap

if you wanna behave well go get that

stand

if you don't want to trip well man go

get that snip

if you want to be legit go

get that snail

uh yeah and thanks again to ash for

sending in that clip

like uh i personally i just really like

that song because i'm planning to get

mine soon

um but anyway so moving on

uh the next thing we wanted to go over

with people is

upcoming events so uh

we plan for december not to really be

getting

into the nitty-gritty of all of the

initiatives we're going to do we're just

going to be focusing on

socializing getting to know people and

sort of introducing ourselves

to the wider antenatalist community

for december and to do that we've just

got

like a few you know light-hearted things

uh planned

so i'll just go through them now so uh

the first two things that will be

happening are just two

general hangouts so um

that'll just they will probably be

hosted on on our discord so make sure to

join that

if there's any technical issues we'll

just move it on to zoom because zoom is

reliable

but all the details for that you can get

on either our social medias

or on our website at the

upcoming events section so if you ever

want to know what

events are coming up just go to the

upcoming events section under the

communities tab

so we've got those two general hangouts

they'll probably be equally spaced

throughout

the month we haven't decided on specific

dates yet and then the other two things

are we're going to have an end of the

year quiz

uh like a big um antenatalist quiz

um so this is a bit like if you're from

the uk like i am you'll probably know

about the big fat quiz of the year

same principle but it's going to be all

relevant to you know anti-natalism being

child free all of that sort of stuff

and then the final thing is a christmas

day hangout because we realized that you

know

um a lot of people don't i mean don't

have anyone to celebrate christmas with

or they kind of see christmas in kind of

like a different way to most people

um and it can also be sort of like an

alienating experience

if you're anti-natalist or um you know

just sort of like slightly remove

society from society and in the way you

view things

um and so what we wanted to do is just

provide a christmas hangout where anyone

who's like that

or anyone else can just come on and hang

out throughout christmas day

so i think that's everything we've got

for december so

now i'll hand over to laith who's going

to talk about the

contest and the winner we have a winner

uh congratulations for the winner we

want to be

announcing who's the winner here for

privacy issues we're gonna contact the

winner via email

so please wait for our email

congratulations

okay well i think we only have one more

special guest left for this evening

and so it is with great pride that i

introduce to you the creator of ephelism

in mendom all right a brief statement

regarding my

impression of the human condition i'd

argue that life is a brutal game played

for no defensible reason

that there's nothing logical about

creating needs that don't need to exist

and something less logical about

inefficiently satisfying them

i'd say the fruit of the tree of life

can only be eaten by parasites

and only people who can justify

parasitic existence can see sense in it

that only a parasite likes to eat

parasites

you know i'd say that only the

intellectually bankrupt can see

profit in imposing loss making losers

isn't a good game to play and that's the

only game

life provides it's always about

competition

it's always about selecting a few

and destroying most

if deserve is going to have nothing to

do with it

then we should have nothing to do with

it so we can't make life

voluntary and essentially perfect

and beyond complaint there would be no

point in having it

but i'd also argue there's no point in

creating that either

without the competition without the win

and loot with lou's game

there really isn't a game to play

there's no need for it

the universe isn't enhanced by it

it serves no purpose only people who see

profit in making losers can make any

sense out of it

life is the bloodiest of the blood

sports

it's more than just a dog fight or a

fight

it's the wastes is insane

crazy hard to even imagine

yeah yeah

it stalls my capacity to even function

to attempt contemplating how bad it is

all right nature will brutally kill one

million

just to kill one more a little bit later

it's that kind of inefficient it's

that's the only function it has

it doesn't care about the waste it

doesn't care about adding up the numbers

and coming up with some rational

strategy

doesn't care about being logical

it just functions and the function is

yeah give that one time to lay eggs and

i'll just slaughter the rest over here

and then after it's done laying the eggs

yeah we'll kill it

and that's what you're endorsing if

you're pro-life

you're just a baby killer

life makes a mess and we need to clean

all of it up

so you know yes we're intelligent

we can care we can do something we can

always find something to fix here some

wound to attempt to heal but the point

is we've got to stop

making the injuries we've got to stop

making reason for band-aids and cures

um we've got to stop it and

that's the only way to clean it up for

good

to stop this perpetual cycle of just

creating things

so they can realize they're in a mess

realize they have an

obligation to put on a janitor suit and

clean up a mess they didn't make

i don't want that job forever and you

really don't have a right to keep

making me do it so

that would be my statement in brief

thank you so much and mendom uh please

make sure everybody to go check out

donutgod.com as well as ethelism.com to

learn more

uh also please subscribe to amendm on

youtube a

selection of relevant links can be found

below

oh well look what we have here one more

clip from one more very special guest

will everyone please give a warm welcome

to the author of better never to have

been

the harm of coming into existence the

one the only

david benatar

imagine that you had a magic wand if you

tapped a stone with this wand

the stone would become sentient and thus

capable of experiencing

both pain and pleasure as a sentient

stone

it would for example require and enjoy

hydration

but would experience parching thirst

when not exposed to water for protracted

periods

and would drown if covered in water

it would enjoy the warm rays of sun on a

lovely day

but it would experience hypothermia if

the environment became too cold

and hyperthermia if it became too hot

should you tap the stone should you not

the stone is no interest in becoming

sentient and it will

suffer and die if it does surely you

should leave all stones

unturned creating sentient frankenstones

would be a horror show in important ways

tapping the stone is like procreation

you create a sentient being where there

was

none a being that is liable to the

vicissitudes of fate

a being capable of suffering unspeakably

a being that will die

if procreation were not so natural and

normal

it would be seen for the tragedy and

travesty that it is

that is the very short version of why i

am an antenatalist

and why you should be too

thank you so much professor benatar and

as you may have guessed the animation

that went along with mr benatar's audio

was provided to us by none other than

glennos so please make sure to follow

the links below to see where you can

purchase all of mr benatar's books

as well as where you can follow and

support glenos

and sadly this brings us to the end of

our event today we so hope that

everybody has enjoyed the event thank

you so much to everybody for coming and

for watching

uh if you haven't already please go head

to our description to find a huge wealth

of links uh to everything that we've

spoken about

and to everybody that has provided

content for us today

um i think the first thing you'll see is

our link tree in that link tree you'll

find

all of the relevant anti-natalism

international social media links all the

pages that

uh we are on this is a great way to

follow everything that antenatalism

international is doing

as we do it now would also be a great

time to head over to our discord where

you can chat with us

at the after party we hope to see you

there however before we close out fully

today there are some very special thank

yous that i absolutely must make

first off thank you so much to everybody

that sent in clips of themselves saying

their language's version

of the word anti-natalism at the top of

the show uh you can find more about each

person below

and please know that we intend to make

that project an ongoing project we'd

like to add more and more clips

and find more and more audio examples of

people saying

the word antinatalism in their language

so if you'd like to submit

an audio or video clip of you saying the

word anti-natalism in your language

please contact us at info antinatalism

international dot com

uh your clips will be used in the wet on

the website and also in further

iterations of the video that you saw

again at the beginning of the show thank

you so much again to everybody

for participating in that project thank

you to all of our special guests for

answering our question

why are you an anti-natalist miguel

steiner raphael samuel

theo les knight in mendom and david

benetar

it was an honor to have each of you as

part of this event

you made us all very proud today by

being able to present your clips

once again information on each of these

gentlemen below

thank you so much again for being with

us today guys huge special thank you

must go to karima kerma

for both your fantastic lecture that you

so generously provided us with today

as well as for letting us use your song

never to have been

once again please make sure to check out

all of karimakurama's links below

aka hunter thank you so much for sharing

your immense talents with antinatalism

international

everyone please go check out ash's

channel below listen to the phenomenal

new album

and please make sure not to miss seeing

the astonishing animated music video for

the sun

you will not regret checking it out i

want to also say a huge thank you to

glenos for creating the

animated portion of david benatar's clip

thank you so much glenos for making that

for the event

uh everybody please go check out uh

glenos's youtube channel below for all

of his phenomenal anti-needless

animations thank you so much to eurodoze

for all your help with the french

translations

and finally thank you to life sucks for

the film festival logo

make sure to follow life sucks on

youtube for some of the very best

antonia's art around

and also make sure to check out his etsy

for some amazing merchandise

on behalf of everyone at anti-natalism

international thank you so much to

everybody for all the support

we have so much more for everyone on the

way and though this is the close of

today's event we will see you all again

very soon bye everybody

thank you for coming bye bye

see you next event bye

you

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